Friday, 31 August 2018

Large cone shaped metal looking UFO in the sky over Lake Erie

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https://youtu.be/zMMXNZwOjA0


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LAURA EISENHOWER 2018: Alien Races, Transhumanism, 13th Zodiac | The BES...

Wild tales by President Eisenhower's Gr8 granddaughter. Keep'emPeeled.

https://youtu.be/Ht5a1--9MXE


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Uri Geller EXPOSED? Was this the biggest sting in television history?

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https://youtu.be/lNUWO9Tlcto


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Compressorhead Ace of Spades

Robot band. Keep'emPeeled.

https://youtu.be/3RBSkq-_St8


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Video for Brazilian army keeps living aliens in secret places

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https://youtu.be/3O_lJWsz5Z4


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This SECRET Video Will Rewrite History Forever...

Mars creatures. Keep'emPeeled.

https://youtu.be/7Q8FONGa9pA


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5 Aliens Captured On Camera By Nasa!

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https://youtu.be/yzzr5BYrCD8


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Logo -binary 📚 system

John Cooper Kilburn LondonUK RIP.

A gr8 Rebel! Keep'emPeeled
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Thursday, 30 August 2018

NASA Confirm 21st September, 2018 is when VATICAN CONFIRMS PLANET X INBO...

End of Days again. The last time, 22(?) 'Dec 2015 Maya I was refused my seat on plane from The Canaries for being drunk. Bastard old woman flight attendant . Keep'emPeeled. Or not. Lol.

https://youtu.be/9OrtB1bXeDo


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Guitar Playing In Commercial... FAKE!

Guitar comedy. Keep'emPeeled.

https://youtu.be/yNJAz9gawPc


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BIO ROBOTS | 5 SECRET SOVIET PROJECTS

Bananas! Keep'emPeeled.

https://youtu.be/61_cdC5J22I


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BIO ROBOTS | 5 SECRET SOVIET PROJECTS

I'll Be Back! Lol Keep'emPeeled.

https://youtu.be/61_cdC5J22I


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You Won’t Believe What Experts Are Hiding! Sumerians Knew Our Solar Syst...

Sumerians. Lizard people. Alien origin? Keep'emPeeled.

https://youtu.be/AQRCCxIHMhY


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UK UFOs | Page 2 | The ForteanTimes Forums

UK UFOs | Page 2 | The ForteanTimes Forums
Latest UFOs news info. Keep'emPeeled. 

UK UFOs | Page 2 | The ForteanTimes Forums

David has not always been a sceptic. I have known him since he was 15 and a very good investigator he always was but that was long before he became as sceptical as he did pver the years.

I actually published in Northern UFO News about 35 years ago one of his first cases. He went to extraordinary lengths to resolve a sighting by a nurse inside a hospital - staking out the road to look for passing car numbers and visiting the ward at that time to compare what you could see from here. Made more significant by the fact that this was in the middle of the night!

He said it seemed likely it was some kind of astronomical object. I followed his lead and discovered via Jodrell Bank that the Moon was exactly where the UFO was that night.

I know then he was a genuine and skilful investigator. If he has become more sceptical over time that is fine by me. We all come to accept what we believe the evidence tells us. But he started out exactly like most of us did - just curious and keen to investigate further.

As for Silpho - it is a good story from his perspective as a journalist and commentator on the media and belief systems. Which he started out as working as a reporter in Yorkshire before he became a professor teaching media in Sheffeld.

I think the hows and whys belief systems develop is his main interest in UFOs these days. Which is a valid part of Fortean research,

We had a discussion about this on the FT Facebook page as he quoted some of my comments on the case in the original Yorkshire Post story (I wrote it up in my book UFO Crash Retrievals because I got access to the metallurgical analysis and the translation of the message on the script). I had not really pursued it past there as it was clearly a hoax. So worth clarifying that but not to pursue it later.

He wondered why I did not really dig deeper and I pointed out I was looking at it from the perspective of a UFO case snd once clear it wasn't one, as such, had no need to go further. He sees it as a social story of why someone would go to all this trouble and expense. A social historian's perspective.

I have no problem trying to help him but he is getting it publicised all over the world (on Fox News in the US today) so good luck to him. Hope he gets some answers.

By what he says on Facebook the museum are now more interested once they realised it was not just junk and might have a story behind it. I wouldn't put it past them exhibiting it at some point now.


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UK UFOs | Page 2 | The ForteanTimes Forums

UK UFOs | Page 2 | The ForteanTimes Forums
UK UFO latest news. Keep'emPeeled. 

UK UFOs | Page 2 | The ForteanTimes Forums

David has not always been a sceptic. I have known him since he was 15 and a very good investigator he always was but that was long before he became as sceptical as he did pver the years.

I actually published in Northern UFO News about 35 years ago one of his first cases. He went to extraordinary lengths to resolve a sighting by a nurse inside a hospital - staking out the road to look for passing car numbers and visiting the ward at that time to compare what you could see from here. Made more significant by the fact that this was in the middle of the night!

He said it seemed likely it was some kind of astronomical object. I followed his lead and discovered via Jodrell Bank that the Moon was exactly where the UFO was that night.

I know then he was a genuine and skilful investigator. If he has become more sceptical over time that is fine by me. We all come to accept what we believe the evidence tells us. But he started out exactly like most of us did - just curious and keen to investigate further.

As for Silpho - it is a good story from his perspective as a journalist and commentator on the media and belief systems. Which he started out as working as a reporter in Yorkshire before he became a professor teaching media in Sheffeld.

I think the hows and whys belief systems develop is his main interest in UFOs these days. Which is a valid part of Fortean research,

We had a discussion about this on the FT Facebook page as he quoted some of my comments on the case in the original Yorkshire Post story (I wrote it up in my book UFO Crash Retrievals because I got access to the metallurgical analysis and the translation of the message on the script). I had not really pursued it past there as it was clearly a hoax. So worth clarifying that but not to pursue it later.

He wondered why I did not really dig deeper and I pointed out I was looking at it from the perspective of a UFO case snd once clear it wasn't one, as such, had no need to go further. He sees it as a social story of why someone would go to all this trouble and expense. A social historian's perspective.

I have no problem trying to help him but he is getting it publicised all over the world (on Fox News in the US today) so good luck to him. Hope he gets some answers.

By what he says on Facebook the museum are now more interested once they realised it was not just junk and might have a story behind it. I wouldn't put it past them exhibiting it at some point now.


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THE ANOMALIST: World News on UFOs, Bigfoot, the Paranormal, and Other Mysteries at the Edge of Science

For all things wacky! Keep'emPeeled.

https://anomalist.com/


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No One Can Explain Who Left This Behind...

Some things are obvious? Keep'emPeeled.


https://youtu.be/AHveLDodG50


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What Happens If You Jump In A Falling Elevator?

It could happen to U, today! Lol Keep'emPeeled.

https://youtu.be/ur18VUKkGVc


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Top 10 Creepiest Things Found in the Woods

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https://youtu.be/HnPcnu-I9Uk


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Friday, 24 August 2018

Project Serpo: Humans-Aliens Exchange Program in Zeta Reticuli

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https://youtu.be/zDqImLa_im0


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Paul Hellyer Earthshaking Confession 'Four Alien Races are Here on Earth'

Project Serpo outline. Keep'emPeeled.

https://youtu.be/EgrCQpWz6iI


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TOP 10 UFO SIGHTINGS OF ALL TIME - HD FEATURE

Top Ten. Keep'emPeeled.

https://youtu.be/2tdbd6I9of4


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UFOs: I KNOW WHAT I SAW - 2017 Best UFO HD Movie UFOTV®

Long vid. Keep'emPeeled.

https://youtu.be/tGMGOdKOPKk


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The Dark Past of Sea Monkeys

Strange story of instant life. Keep'emPeeled.

https://youtu.be/A0xXKCOSZuQ


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Ultimate Guide to #Alien Races [Vol. 1]

Check it out ! Keep'emPeeled.

https://youtu.be/KJPmET3pPFc


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Deathbed Confession by former CIA agent on UFOs / The Anonymous Intervie...

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https://youtu.be/c--gGcsc4aw


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Deathbed Confession by former CIA agent on UFOs / The Anonymous Intervie...

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Deathbed Confession by former CIA agent on UFOs / The Anonymous Intervie...

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https://youtu.be/c--gGcsc4aw


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Woman In Florida Films Cigar Shape UFO Flying Through Clouds

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https://youtu.be/xavhkpd7-nw


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If It Wasn't For the Witnesses No One Would Believe This is Happening!

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https://youtu.be/at6hCWZvvbQ


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Penn and Teller Fool Us Paul ...

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https://youtu.be/BiofnvIrEZM


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Tracks Of An Unknown Creature Discovered On The Deep Sea Floor

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https://youtu.be/srh4YMsbhL0


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Unknown Craft Filmed Firing Thrusters In Front Of Moon

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https://youtu.be/R8Gt4crkqWk


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Ancient "UFO-Landing-Site" Found In Chile?

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https://youtu.be/SkaQvmDFNpU


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Were Malta's Temples Built By Aliens?

Going there. Keep'emPeeled.

https://youtu.be/KIb8a-lmC3E


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This Is The Most Mysterious Discovery You Will Ever See...

More Top 5's. Keep'emPeeled.

https://youtu.be/m7A-ScpYMFA


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BANNED Antarctica Video (2018-2019)

Conspiracy. Keep'emPeeled.

https://youtu.be/8m1dN4A9BsA


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Amazing Electron Microscope Images Part 2

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https://youtu.be/j6B-HYsvkvo


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178 Seconds To Live

Don't fly into the fog! Keep'emPeeled.

https://youtu.be/fXzYZjpoz_E


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Thursday, 23 August 2018

The Mark Of Cain! A Killer Of Women & Children

Check his eyes -The pupils & retina, he has two!
Is this the Being inside? Both eyes have it. I will do more research & get the full story. Evil is real.

At Which Birthday Do U Say Shut Up?

At Which

Birthday Do U Say Shut Up?

I was 50! when I first cursed my age.. 50, half a bleeding century! Yet I looked youngish I tried to fool myself in denial. It's however you feel inside, I told myself. All the platitudes. I went to look for an amusing birthday card for someone 50.,I could only find one- it read "Now is the time when anyone asks how old you are, You tell them to mind their own f'n business! ". So, ok that was me, I realise people will have their own times when they realise that they are gonna die & what's it all about really? Time does that to a person. I think that this life is not the end. That would be pointless. I think we'll all get on a big bus & zoom about everywhere. Then when we've seen everything we'll get to the next part of the story. I saw UFOS 🛸 @ they saw me & stopped. Tomorrow belongs to us. Everyone will be fine.




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What does a 'no deal' Brexit mean and how bad could it get? | Politics | The Guardian

What does a 'no deal' Brexit mean and how bad could it get? | Politics | The Guardian
All that time has passed since the vote. Now they're saying they don't have anything worked out! What's that idiot the PM doing? She's a dildo! That's what she is! Keep'emPeeled. 

What does a 'no deal' Brexit mean and how bad could it get?

Brexiters are counting on the EU's economic self-interest but any breakdown in negotiations could be hard to contain

Calls are growing among Conservative politicians for Britain to walk away from the deadlocked Brexit talks and prepare for the consequences of leaving Europe without a diplomatic agreement in place. From grounded airlines to soaring unemployment and empty shops, the implications could be dramatic.

What does 'no deal' mean?

Just as there are a variety of different deals that could be struck between Britain and the EU, there are many ways in which Brexit talks might break down. Most assume a failure to agree the terms of divorce – the size of the financial settlement, or the role of the European court of justice – followed by a walkout by negotiators and no discussion at all on future trade arrangements. This would mean relying instead on non-EU treaties, such as shared commitments to the World Trade Organization and the Hague convention, to govern ongoing cross-border affairs. It is possible, however, to imagine a more amicable "agreed no deal", in which divorce talks end with a limited settlement that plans for an orderly exit but is not sufficient for the EU to allow full-scale trade negotiations at this stage.

How bad could it get?

The worry is that any breakdown among negotiators will be hard to contain. The chancellor, Philip Hammond, has warned of a "bad-tempered scenario" in which neither side acts in their own best economic interests. Many Europeans regard the dispute over money not as an early round of bargaining but as a matter of good faith. If the Brits cannot be trusted to settle their past promises, why bother striking future deals? Walking out could therefore be treated as a legal default, with litigation in the international courts and even asset confiscation. Never mind free trade talks, such an atmosphere could make it impossible to agree a replacement for all manner of existing arrangements governing travel, immigration and customs.

What might this mean in practice?

The extreme scenario raised by Hammond would be one in which even basic infrastructure arrangements such as airline treaties are not replaced, preventing UK carriers from landing at EU27 airports. Some in the aviation industry say this is not so far-fetched and could begin to bite as soon as this March when they will be unable to guarantee the validity of tickets issued a year in advance. Ports and land crossings could be just as chaotic, with long queues of lorries waiting to clear customs and a politically explosive hard border returning to Northern Ireland. It is even possible that progress in negotiations on citizens rights could be reversed, forcing EU citizens to leave the UK and imposing visa requirements on Britons travelling to Europe.

Is there a rosier scenario?

For many Brexiters, such talk is little but remoaner scaremongering. They believe the benefits of a "clean Brexit" easily outweigh the risks of being forced to take whatever deal the EU chooses to force upon Britain. Much of their confidence comes from the assumption that economic self-interest would force the EU to agree some basic measures to keep borders open and trade flowing. In the meantime, they point out that both China and the US rely on little more than WTO rules to trade perfectly successfully with Europe, as does Britain when trading with them. Though WTO tariffs are high for food and cars, most manufactured goods would see little change in export duties. Over time, the hope is that Britain could return to the negotiating table to agree rules that would facilitate EU trade in services and find other ways to compensate for lost agricultural markets by looking to faster-growing markets abroad.

Is WTO that simple?

The trouble is that even the WTO option no longer looks so simple. The US has just rejected joint efforts by the UK and the EU to extend existing quota arrangements post-Brexit and may instead require extensive negotiations just to return Britain to the status quo. Inheriting other existing bilateral trade deals may also prove trickier than Britain imagines, let alone striking new ones with countries that seem more interested in accessing the larger EU market first. Under a no-deal scenario, the high cost of inflicting WTO terms on British farmers and carmakers would come alongside onerous new customs procedures that could make the export of fresh produce and just-in-time supply chains all but impossible. Unemployment would soar and supermarkets warn of empty shelves and rising prices if the continental umbilical cord is cut in such a way.

Can Britain prepare for this?

The scale of the challenge partially explains Treasury reticence to spend money preparing for this eventuality. But Brexiters fears that unless Britain shows it is ready for a no-deal outcome, it will inevitably be forced to accept the worst deal instead. This might mean buying land near cross-channel ports that can be used to hold lorries awaiting customs clearance and investing in new IT solutions. But as sceptics have pointed out, even the most streamlined customs process is useless if it is met with indifference or even outright hostility from disgruntled trade partners on the other side of the border.

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Push The Feeling On (The Dub Of Doom) - Nightcrawlers

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My latest hairstyle

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Cooper's Treasure Season 3 Renewal in the Cards?

U got it here 1st! Keep'emPeeled.

https://premieredate.news/tv-series/4136-cooper-s-treasure.html


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Wednesday, 22 August 2018

The Extraterrestrial Hypothesis

Discussion/ monologue. Keep'emPeeled.

https://youtu.be/dB-gQDAos_A


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Inside Area 51 Bob Lazar New Documentary [Sneak Peak!]...2018

The Real Deal Returns! Keep'emPeeled.

https://youtu.be/-3Ms7qS9LFI


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Prayers Up: Billy Connolly Is In Critical Condition After Suffering From...

All Scotland's Hero! Keep'emPeeled.

https://youtu.be/_Qzr6PUdCy0


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The Faustian Bargain

Pay attention. Keep'emPeeled.

https://youtu.be/45r7GSQIerw


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Let's Overanalyze: Houseki no Kuni as a Faustian Tale

Some anime! Keep'emPeeled.

https://youtu.be/X9ngYYHIJqc


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James Randi exposes Uri Geller and Peter Popoff

I used to be in the room when folks tried to bend stuff Keep'emPeeled.

https://youtu.be/M9w7jHYriFo


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Robot Robert Di Nero “U Talking 2 Me?”.

. Went out & took photos & vids of where I saw the UFOS. I will report soon.
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Friday, 17 August 2018

5 People Who Were Caught Encountering Aliens!

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https://youtu.be/RRE6u5id5rE


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corpocracy: Dictionary.com's Word of the Day

A word that describes what's wrong with this world 🌍. 
Different subject-In secret", "privately", "confidentially" or "covertly". In the Middle Ages, a rose was suspended from the ceiling of a council chamber to indicate that what was said in the "under the rose" was not to be repeated outside. This practice originates in Greek mythology, where Aphrodite gave a rose to her son Eros, and he, in turn, gave it to Harpocrates, the god of silence, to ensure that his mother's indiscretions—or those of the gods in general, in other accounts—were kept under wraps. Sub Rosa - but go to CORPOCRACY It's what wrong with the wOrld! Keep'emPeeled 


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Truth Drug Experiments on Children at Aston Hall

Scary! Keep'emPeeled.

https://bfms.org.uk/truth-drug-experiments-children-aston-hall/


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TOP 10 THINGS YOU MIGHT NOT KNOW (EPISODE #1)

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https://youtu.be/Tw0erYz7fcE


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🌒 The Moon Telescope LIVE! 🔭 August 16, 2018

A long vid to be sure but check the many massive buildings/constructions in the centres of many of the craters. Who built them? ALIENS or US? Keep'emPeeled.

https://youtu.be/oVAepsWR0G4


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Thursday, 16 August 2018

The Road To Hell ls Paved With Good Intentions .

This is an idiom I aggrandised many moons ago. It's when u try to do good but it ends in evil. Not ur fault, u had good in Ur heart & u tried to help. It just got complicated. Things started to go off the rails, u tried to set it right but it just got worse. It's a Life Learner.
Never do it again! Keep'emPeeled

'Alien sighting' reported in Ohio

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https://www.wric.com/news/weird-news/-alien-sighting-reported-in-ohio/1369825899


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Alien sighting north of Mount Vernon — Mount Vernon News

Alien sighting north of Mount Vernon — Mount Vernon News
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Alien sighting north of Mount Vernon

Originally published | Updated: August 10, 2018 Print | E-mail | 13 comments


Mount Vernon News

The News acquired permission to publish this sketch of a creature sighted July 31 on Ohio 13 north of Mount Vernon. The incident was investigated by national UFO group Mutual UFO Network.

Submitted Graphic

The News acquired permission to publish this sketch of a creature sighted July 31 on Ohio 13 north of Mount Vernon. The incident was investigated by national UFO group Mutual UFO Network.

MOUNT VERNON — A report of a tall, brown-skinned creature sighted in Knox County is being investigated by a national UFO group.

Ohio Investigator Ron McGlone, with the Mutual UFO Network, Ohio, said his office received a report of a tall, brown-skinned creature spotted on Ohio 13 "a couple miles" north of Mount Vernon. The sighting, reported by a motorist, occurred July 31.

According to a description provided by the reportee, the creature was bipedal, 7 to 8 feet tall with dark tan to light brown skin and had no body hair. The description states the creature as having a "tall slender body, arms and legs small in diameter, hands and feet looked oversized for its body proportion, small neck with oval elongated head." The creature's eyes were black, the reportee said.

The creature came out of a cornfield and crossed the highway "at a tremendous rate of speed," the reportee said, taking only two or three steps to get across the road.

The reportee said they thought, at first, the creature was a deer, until they realized it was walking upright.

The report was filed through the MUFON website, McGlone said. The reportee, described as a credible witness, has asked to remain anonymous at this time, McGlone said.

McGlone said he interviewed the reportee and obtained a sketch of the creature. He and the reportee walked the area where the sighting occurred, McGlone said, but no corroborating evidence was discovered. McGlone declined to give the exact location of the sighting, out of respect for the landowner.

Knox County Sheriff David Shaffer said his office has not received any reports regarding creature sightings from the same area July 30-31.

Anyone who has had a similar sighting should e-mail their contact information to MUFON at mufonohio@columbus.rr.com.

MUFON is a national organization which collects reports from across the U.S. It assigns these reports to regional investigators. The organization has more than 3,000 members, according to its website.

Nick Sabo: 740-397-5333 or nsabo@mountvernonnews.com and on Twitter, @mountvernonnews



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Discovery Channel treasure hunter says he’s found evidence of alien visit | Daily Mail Online

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6035613/Discovery-Channel-treasure-hunter-claims-hes-evidence-extra-terrestrial-visit.html


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Tennessee Bigfoot - Documentary by Michael Utt

Gr8 Vid! Keep'emPeeled.

https://youtu.be/btV6rfCJm_k


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Diver Claims "ALIEN SHIP" Found Under Bermuda Triangle!

SecureTeam. Keep'emPeeled.

https://youtu.be/Sm5TWbyqoY0


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Alien interview part 2 The secrets of universe & English speaking

I posted part 1 yonks ago. Keep'emPeeled.

https://youtu.be/OQr_UeKL-0g


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MUFON Case 53663 - Hazlet, NJ - December 25, 2013

Tr-3B. Keep'emPeeled.

https://youtu.be/mdeu7yVR_PQ


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The Location of Kincaid's 'Cave' Revealed

The Location of Kincaid's 'Cave' Revealed
Strange cave where a hidden civilisation lived. Keep'emPeeled.

The Location of Kincaid's 'Cave' Revealed

by Jack Andrews

First published June 27, 2001

Ongoing Research by Jack Andrews and Susan Anway
and a team of explorers

from AncientAmerican Website

Recovered through WayBackMachine Website

Spanish version

If you have any pertinent information regarding this "cave", G. E. Kincaid, Professor S. A. Jordan, or the Smithsonian Institute's alleged involvement in this story, please do not hesitate to contact me at vrartist@gci-net.com.

ALL correspondence to me regarding your possible knowledge involvement or experience at or about this "cave" will be kept confidential

or "anonymous" if you wish.

Jack Andrews

With gratitude to Steve Wingate

for his own efforts at finding this cave and our combined effort to solve this mystery.

An Analysis on the Probable Location of an "Underground Citadel"

Alleged to be in the Grand Canyon of the Colorado River, Arizona,

according to a "Phoenix (Arizona) Gazette" front page news story dated "April 5, 1909"

First published June 27, 2001 at: "Lost Civilizations and Hidden Mysteries"

Exploration and Imagination with Jack Andrews and Susan Anway:

I have known of this location since 1972.

I have held the secret since then.

I feel it is the proper time to reveal the location.

Jack Andrews June 27, 2001

A front page story which ran in the "Phoenix (Arizona) Gazette", a major Arizona newspaper of the era, dated April 5, 1909, began with the headline, "Explorations in the Grand Canyon" "Mysteries of the Immense Rich Cavern being brought to Light" "Jordan is enthused" "Remarkable finds indicate ancient people migrated from the Orient."

The story tells of a lone explorer, G. E. Kincaid, described as "an explorer and hunter all his life" and "thirty years having been in the service of the Smithsonian Institute", who was traveling alone, down the Colorado river, in a wooden boat, in search of "mineral".

Mr. Kincaid claimed to have seen "stains in the sediment" on the east wall of the canyon gorge he was traveling through. He most likely landed his boat, and made his way up the east side of the canyon, and over a "shelf", then walked past "steps" to the "mouth of a cave" entrance. He went inside the entrance and discovered hallways, rooms, "mummies" "copper objects" and various other "artifacts" along with what appeared to him at the time to be "hieroglyphics" of an "Egyptian" or "Oriental" type.

This is just a brief description of what he found and saw.

The rest of the story goes on to relate how the Kincaid carried a few artifacts back to Yuma Arizona and then sent them off to Washington (presumably to the Smithsonian, although he did not say that specifically) who then went on to further investigate the site under the supervision of "S. A. Jordan" and a group of archaeologists a "group" that eventually was to amount to 30-40 persons.

It is important to note here that S. A. Jordan was NOT named as a Smithsonian employee. The article only says he "supervised" the explorations.

For the purposes of this analysis, I will try not speculate or go into reasons I may have to determine whether or not Mr. Kincaid's story is true or false. That separate subject I have dealt with at: Lost City of the Dead in the Grand Canyon.

My purpose in this writing is to determine as best as I possibly can, from Mr. Kincaid's own words, and my own other experience and research, where the alleged "cave" and subsequent "citadel" might have been located (or "is" located, if it actually exists or still exists) in Grand Canyon National Park.


I will determine what I think is the most likely location based on evidence gained from Mr. Kincaid's own description of the location, my knowledge of the Grand Canyon from twenty one hikes below it's rims, my extensive reading and research on the Grand Canyon, elevation data of the area from USGS topographic maps, mileage distances on the Colorado river, historical "place names" in the Grand Canyon, and geological "layers" in the Grand Canyon, along with various other sources of research, some of which are listed at the end of this writing in my "References and Notes".

I will attempt to make a case for it's location at a relatively specific point in the Marble Canyon area of Grand Canyon National Park, adjacent to and possibly including a portion of the Navajo Indian Reservation, (the underground portion of the caverns) in north eastern Arizona.

I will quote G. E. Kincaid's own words on the location as published in the "Gazette" story and add my reasons under each quote for my interpretation of his words and how they describe what I deduced to be the location back in 1972 and still believe is the location today.
 


"First I would impress that the cavern is nearly inaccessible"

G. E. Kincaid

(Phoenix/Arizona Gazette, 1909)

This implies that the location is very difficult to reach (at least in 1909 when Kincaid described it).

I agree that the location would have been difficult to reach in 1909, and also, would be difficult (although less difficult than in 1909) to reach today. The location below the cave itself, is in a deep river gorge (Marble Canyon) accessible by either arriving there in a boat or float trip, or on foot from the rim of the Little Colorado river gorge, on the Navajo reservation. One could also hike from the Tanner Trail, or down the North Rim Nankoweap trail, cross the Colorado River (illegally) and walk the east bank to a point across from Kwagunt Rapids.

The most practical hike would involve some scrambling down steep areas of the "Hopi Salt Trail" in the canyon gorge of the Little Colorado River, then hiking several miles westerly to the confluence of the Colorado and Little Colorado rivers in the Grand Canyon proper. (Marble Canyon)

Then the trip would necessitate a relatively level hike along the Colorado river in a northern direction for several more miles. In 1909 these options would have been considerably more difficult, either boating to the location in a hard shell boat (as Kincaid did), or hiking there on foot. The rigid boats of the period around 1909 were much more hazardous in the Grand Canyon's rapids than their modern equivalents, inflatable rafts.

Also, in 1909 trails to the site would have been less known and less frequently traveled, making a hiking trip to the location much more hazardous. One could, in theory attempt a rim down climb to the area near the cave.
 

"The entrance is 1,486 feet down the sheer canyon wall"

G. E. Kincaid

(Phoenix/Arizona Gazette, 1909)

This alone shows that the "cave" entrance would be difficult to get to and would most likely involve rock climbing skills and be very dangerous.

Cliffs such as this are common in Marble Canyon and vertical cliffs are also common near the river in this area. Kincaid's 1,486 feet is also an important elevation marker in determining the location of this site.

I have been to the area above the three mile stretch of the canyon, where the cave most likely exists, and as you can see from the photo below, the cliffs just below the rim are very steep and impassable on foot.

Original Photo Courtesy Steve Wingate copyright 2000
 

"I was journeying down the Colorado river in a boat, alone, looking for mineral. Some forty-two miles up the river from the El Tovar Crystal canyon..."

G. E. Kincaid

(Phoenix/Arizona Gazette, 1909)

Here Kincaid states that he was "journeying "down" the Colorado river." "Down" a river (any river) is generally, if not nearly always construed to mean "with the current of the river."

This usage of the word "down" has been confirmed by my conversations and correspondence with river runners, historians and in particular, Colorado river runners. Kincaid then goes on to use the term "up the river." "Up" the river is the opposite of "down" the river and generally construed to mean "against the current of the river" This has also been confirmed by the above sources.

These terms would not generally be confusing in everyday conversation about a boat moving along a river, but I clarify them here because they are critical terms in determining Kincaid's stated location of the cave. The Colorado river runs from a northeastern location in Marble Canyon, in a south and southwestern direction, down through the Grand Canyon proper. The current runs from north to south in the area Kincaid describes.

So I will assume with some accuracy that Kincaid was traveling "down" the river through the Grand Canyon, in a south to southwestern direction. I will also assume that when he stated "up the river", he was referring to a location against the current, or north to northeast of his given reference point. ("El Tovar Crystal Canyon")

Kincaid in refers to the location of the "cave" as being a certain distance from "El Tovar Crystal Canyon".

The name, "El Tovar" originated historically from "Don Pedro Tovar", one of the Spanish explorer Coronado's captains, who in August of 1541 was sent to explore the Cebolla "country", located in the province of Tusayan. (north eastern Arizona near the Hopi lands) Tovar found the "Moqui" (Hopi) villages whose inhabitants informed him that there existed a "great river" several days journey to the north. (The Colorado of the Grand Canyon) Tovar reported this back to Coronado who sent Captain Cardenas to "seek the great river".

Cardenas eventually reached the river and the great cliffs of the Grand Canyon (yet to be named "Grand"). Some of his party tried to cross the great gap of the canyon and failed, unable to get down the sheer walls and steep slopes of the canyon.1 Cardenas has thus been granted the historical distinction of being the first non Native American ("European") to see the Grand Canyon.

For purposes here I am concerned with Kincaid's use of the term "El Tovar" in reference to "Crystal Canyon." I highly suspect that Kincaid is referring to the El Tovar Hotel on the South rim of the canyon, in Grand Canyon Village. This grand hotel was built on the rim of the canyon between the years of 1903 and 1905. On January 14, 1905 El Tovar Hotel opened to the public. 2

In the Phoenix (Arizona) Gazette article of April 5, 1909 it is stated that Kincaid "brought the story" of the "underground citadel" "to the city" (Phoenix and the Gazette) "yesterday" (April 4, 1909) after having "discovered" the site "several months ago".

This would imply that Kincaid discovered the citadel in 1908 or 1909. I now know that he most likely discovered the site in October of 1908. It is possible then that he knew of the El Tovar Hotel (opened in 1905) and could have been referring to the hotel's name in reference to "Crystal Canyon".

The mouth of Crystal Canyon (Crystal Creek actually) should be visible from a window of the hotel, or somewhere near the hotel (a rim viewpoint) and Kincaid simply used the Hotel as a reference point that readers of the Gazette could relate to, since the hotel was a brand new feature and a prominent place to stay at the rim.

The middle to upper reaches of the Crystal Creek canyon area should be visible from El Tovar Hotel (see map below) .

In any case, the only other modern public structure currently anywhere near Crystal Creek is Phantom Ranch, and that was built in 1922 several years after Kincaid's discovery and the appearance of the Phoenix (Arizona) Gazette article.

The El Tovar hotel seems to be be the nearest publicly known reference point to Crystal Creek (canyon) that the readers of the Gazette could relate to, and it was probably used in that regard, by Kincaid as a reference point for the general public.

The importance of "El Tovar Crystal Canyon" is that it most likely refers to Crystal Creek and it's surrounding canyon. In an extensive search of the Grand Canyon area, referring to historical journals, several historic and modern maps, hiker's guides, rangers, Grand Canyon historians, Grand Canyon Place Names and numerous other sources, I am unable to turn up any reference to "El Tovar" Crystal Canyon.

The only other location that comes near to the name "Tovar" is "Tobar Terrace" further west in the Grand Canyon, but "Tobar" Terrace is bordered on the east by "Blacktail Canyon" and on the west by "One Hundred and Twenty Two Mile Creek". Both names are not even remotely near the name "Crystal Canyon" referred to by Kincaid in 1909.

Various sources agree that the reference most likely refers to the canyon in which Crystal Creek flows, a side canyon off of the Colorado river in the heart of Grand Canyon.

I agree that Kincaid was most likely referring to "Crystal Creek" and it's associated canyon at mile 98 on the Colorado River in the Grand Canyon, especially since "Crystal Creek" is commonly labeled on Grand Canyon maps, and maps dated to the period when Kincaid traveled the river.

1903 map showing Crystal Creek.

This map would have been available to G. E. Kincaid
 

Designated points along the Colorado river in the Grand Canyon are referred to with numbers such as "mile 98" above.

These points reference a distance on the Colorado river from Lee's Ferry, Arizona, a common starting point for many Colorado river float trips. Crystal Creek. The most likely candidate for Kincaid's "El Tovar Crystal Canyon", and it is at is at mile 98.
 


"Some forty-two miles up the river from the El Tovar Crystal canyon"

G. E. Kincaid,

Phoenix/Arizona Gazette, 1909

Subtracting 42 miles from mile 98 leaves mile 56.

Remember that "up the river" is "against the current" and in the Grand Canyon, this means up toward Lees Ferry. Mile 56 is at Kwagunt Creek or Kwagunt rapid, in Marble Canyon.

Map of Grand Canyon National Park showing Kincaid's "42 miles" as a red line on the river.
by Jack Andrews 2000
 

Marble Canyon got it's name from Major John Wesley Powell, who in August of 1869, wrote in his journal about "cliffs of marble" which contained "a great number of caves".

It is important to note here Powell stated that Marble Canyon contained "a great number of caves". The "citadel" Kincaid speaks of in his story is in a "cave".

Since Powell's time many caves have been noted or discovered in the Marble Canyon area, including Stanton's Cave, a large cave in the Redwall formation at mile 31.7 and an important archaeological site. 5

Stanton's cave in Marble Canyon, Grand canyon, Arizona
 

"Marble Gorge" Canyon or gorge in Colorado river between mouths of Paria and Little Colorado, so named by Major Powell 1869.

We have cut through the sand stones and limestones met in the upper part of the canyon and through one great bed of marble a thousand feet in thickness. So we call it 'Marble Canyon. It is 651/2 miles long.

"Powell" Dellenbaugh writes:

"As the formation was mainly a fine-grained gray marble, Powell concluded to call this division by a separate name and gave it the title Marble Canyon."

Decision U.S.G. 1
 


"Some forty-two miles up the river from the El Tovar Crystal canyon, I saw on the east wall, stains in the sedimentary formation..."

G. E. Kincaid

(Phoenix/Arizona Gazette, 1909)

At mile 56 (Kwagunt creek and rapid) the Marble canyon and Colorado river takes turn from a south eastern direction and trends almost due south for approximately 3.3 miles. (see USGS topographic map section of the area below):

The 5.5 mile (or so) stretch of the Colorado River in Marble Canyon
(Grand Canyon National Park, and Navajo "Dineh" Nation)
that most likely still hides G. E. Kincaid's Lost "Cave"
 

"Some forty-two miles up the river from the El Tovar Crystal canyon, I saw on the east wall, stains in the sedimentary formation..."

G. E. Kincaid

(Phoenix/Arizona Gazette, 1909)

Back in 1909 Kincaid has most likely followed the turn in the river here at mile 56 headed due south. In his search for "mineral" he looked up and saw on "the east wall, stains in the sedimentary formation about 2,000 feet above the river bed".

Several of Kincaid's observations are very important here.

1. Kincaid notices the "stains" on the east wall. Looking at the topographic map, it is easy to see that he would have been in a position on the river to be just next to an "east wall", immediately after passing through Kwagunt rapid.

2. The "stains" according to Kincaid were "in the sedimentary formation". This is very important. The geology of the Marble Canyon region is basically a record of altered sedimentary deposits. From the rim to the river in Marble Canyon there are successive layers of modified sedimentary deposits. You can see this in the diagram below, which lists the various formations from rim to river.

I have delineated the formations present in Marble Canyon, in the diagram. Most all formations had their origins as sedimentary deposits. It is important to emphasize here that in this particular stretch of the Grand Canyon, "Marble Canyon", modified sediment types reach from rim to river.

Modified image by Jack Andrews 2001
 

Further south and west in the Grand Canyon the "Inner Gorge" of the Colorado (1200-1900 or so foot high) cliffs along both sides of the river, are made up of the Vishnu Schist, a 2 billion (or so) year old formation, dark brown in color of extremely altered sandstones shales and limestones, intermingled with lava flows.

The dark smooth rock of the Vishnu Schist is the result of metamorphism, altered (in this case) by the tremendous pressure of lying (originally) under nearly 12 miles of formations, crushed folded and melted into it's present highly altered state. 6

It would take a stretch of the imagination to see Kincaid looking up at the nearly glassy dark brown surface of the Vishnu Schist and calling it "sedimentary formation". Also, immediately above the Inner Gorge (Vishnu Schist), is the "Tonto Platform" a nearly horizontal platform of gently rolling hills, that extends for some distance horizontally away from the edge of the Inner Gorge.

It is not a formation known for caves. Kincaid said he saw "stains in the sedimentary formation about 2,000 feet above the river bed".

In the Inner Gorge area of the Vishnu Schist, if Kincaid looked up, he would have see only the edge of the Vishnu Schist at about 1200-1900 feet, and not have been able to see much if anything of the horizontal Tonto Platform, just above the Inner Gorge, which would have been out of his line of sight (horizontal).

He would not have seen "stains in the sedimentary formation", since the Vishnu Schist id hardly "sedimentary". He also would have also been located incorrectly on the river, since he would not be even near "42 miles up the river from El Tovar Crystal Canyon" (Crystal Creek and canyon), if in the Vishnu Schist area of the Inner Gorge.

USGS topo map below, showing the Inner Gorge (Vishnu Schist) As "Granite Gorge", in the central area of Grand Canyon National Park.

The more horizontal "Tonto Platform" can be seen just below the 3898 foot elevation marker (lower right) as the area containing the name "Tonto Trail" If you look north across the river where it says: "Clear Creek Trail" you will see the "Tonto Platform" again, as a broad more horizontal formation. (topo lines further apart)

The area shown as "Granite Gorge" ( says "GORGE") is the "Inner Gorge" "Vishnu Schist" formation, next to the river.

It is also true that views in Marble Canyon, at river level are somewhat limited, due to the steep walls of the redwall formation, just above the river.

But at mile 56 on the Colorado River, in Marble Canyon, there is a large gap in the vertical walls that would allow a clear view up to the 2000 foot level near where Kincaid said he saw "stains in the sediment".

At the river near "Kwagunt" Rapids the elevation of the river is near 2,760 feet. The elevation at the rim above Kwagunt is approximately 6050 feet. (both elevations vary slightly in the 6 mile stretch I have designated as containing the "cave'.)

If we subtract 2,760 (river at ground level) feet from 6050 feet (rim at top) we have 3,290 feet as the actual height of the canyon at Kwagunt, from river to rim.

Remember that Kincaid said,

"I saw on the east wall, stains in the sedimentary formation about 2000 feet above the river bed"

He also said:

"The entrance is 1,486 feet down the sheer canyon wall.." (meaning from the rim down)

If we add Kincaid's two figures, 2000 feet and 1,486 feet we come up with 3,486 feet as Kincaid's height from the river to the rim.

That figure is only 196 feet in variation from the actual height (river to rim of 3,290 feet) at the present day location!! Considering that the rim and river elevations vary almost 200 combined feet in that 6 mile stretch of canyon, it is evident that Kincaid's measurements are highly accurate in to the area in which he stated that he saw the cave.

For the reasons detailed above, I think the "cave" described in the headline story of the Arizona Gazette, April 5, 1909 and its fantastic underground installation was, and still may be, located above an approximate six mile stretch of the Colorado River in Marble Canyon, at the border of Marble Canyon and the Navajo Nation above an area near Kwagunt Rapids.

References and notes

1. Will C. Barnes Arizona Place Names (The University of Arizona Press, 1988)
2. Margaret M. Verkamp History of Grand Canyon National Park (A Thesis Submitted to the Faculty of the Department of History, Graduate College, University of Arizona, 1940)
3. Michael F. Anderson Living at the Edge, Explorers, Exploiters and settlers of the Grand Canyon Region (Grand Canyon Association, 1998)
4. Byrd H. Granger Grand Canyon Place Names (The University of Arizona Press, Tucson, 1960)
5. Robert C. Euler, Editor, The Archaeology, Geology, and Paleobiology of Stanton's Cave, Grand Canyon National Park, Arizona (Grand Canyon Natural History Association Monograph Number 6, 1984)
6. Halka Chronic, Roadside Geology of Arizona, (Mountain Press Publishing Co., Missoula, February 1989, 6th Printing), on page 280 the author describes the Vishnu formation, and it is this discussion I refer to in my text.



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